I’ve been using emClient for awhile in imap mode every couple of months to keep a local version of my providers webmail by sychronizing… Does the synchronization process only add new webmail to my emClient or does the process also delete webmail items in emClient if those items have been deleted in my providers webmail?
I ask this because my provider just lost all my sent messages and does not support restoration. I am afraid to resynch emClient to my (now messed up) webmail for fear of my local emClient version of “sent messages” being emptied while as it is synched to my webmail “sent messages”. I’ve been considering that my local emClient acts as an archive of my webmail, in ignorance?.
If you have an IMAP account unless you have enabled Archiving locally in eM Client, any email deleted on the server “will be mirrored / deleted in your email client as well” as is the nature of IMAP.
So if your mailbox providor has deleted your sent mail (which is terrible) eM Client will also show everything deleted as well in your sent items folder as just mirrors your mailbox providor.
The only option you have (as your mailbox providor has no mailbox restoration) would be to see if the deleted sent mail is in your “deleted / trash folder” where normally it should be “using an IMAP account”. You can then normally just drag all the deleted sent mail back to the sent items folder.
How eM Client Archiving locally works.
Archive your emails easily with eM Client | eM Client
Using a local archive can be useful for synchronized accounts that are running out of space or simply if you want to keep older messages off your synchronized devices, for example, if you don’t wish to see messages that are several years old on your phone, but wish to keep the messages on your computer.
You can still view and work with archived messages in eM Client like usual, but they will be left out of searches (unless you specify you wish to include them) making the search more efficient. Once the Archive folders are created, you can also drag messages into and from them freely as they work similarly to Local folders.
Automatic archiving is a separate feature from ‘Move to Archive’ button, which is a server-side feature currently available only for Gmail accounts.
Thank you for the quick response to my question. I have been going over the emClient documentation to try to understand more about how to use this powerful tool in my limited context(emails only). I have now taken my emClient offline so I don’t accidently synch to my webmail and lose my local Sent emails from the last IMAP synchronization in Oct. My sent emails pior to 11/26 are what disappeared.
Neither my provider(nor I) moved my Sent emails to the trash folder on webmail, so there is no recovery available on my webmail.
I have been snchronizing emClient with my webmail every month or so for a couple of years. The last occurrence was in Oct, so I have lost about a month(mid Oct to late Nov) of my sent email. I had been copying my emclient version of each syched webmail folder to corresponding local folders, just in case.
It seems, now that I should probably be creating backups(either automatically or manually) from emClient.
Does that make sense? Does a backup only support restoration to the original emClient db or can it be searched itself?
I’ve been a bit confused by some of the terminology:
Downloading seems to mean moving(vice copying) data from one location(e.g. email server) to another(e.g. email client).
Exporting seems to mean moving(vice copying) data from one location to another.
Archiving seems to mean moving(vice copying) data from one location to another.
Backing up seems to mean copying (leaving intact on the source) data from one location to another. Am I understanding correctly?
Backup will copy and compress so emclient can restore. It is not meant to be searched or used except to restore to emclient.
I’ve never heard of downloading meaning moving. I’ve only heard of it to mean copy. Perhaps you have a special case. If I download a copy of emclient or another program from the company’s server, it does not eliminate that program.
Exporting also always in my experience means copying, not moving. If I export my bookmarks in my browser, I do not lose them all.
Archiving depends. The way Emclient sets it up is probably what you had wanted to have. You select some or all folders from the server, and a elapsed time, and then a schedule and it will move those items from the server’s inbox, sent box etc. to a local folder (local means local), on your computer. You can then backup as you wish. It is done automatically, so for example you could say that every 2 weeks you want emclient to archive all folders for an account on the server to an identical set of folders in your local folder for that account for all emails over 3 weeks old (or whatever). That will move them. They will no longer be in the sent of inbox on their server.
Backup does mean copying.
Perhaps I didn’t understand your term “vice copying”. To me it would mean to imitate unsavory behavior.
A microsoft description of IMAP and POP says:
“When you read an email message using IMAP, you aren’t actually downloading or storing it on your computer; instead, you’re reading it from the email service.”…and "IMAP only downloads a message when you click on it, and attachments aren’t automatically downloaded. "
“POP works by contacting your email service and downloading all of your new messages from it. Once they are downloaded onto your PC or Mac, they are deleted from the email service. Once they are downloaded onto your PC or Mac, they are deleted from the email service.”
I can understand that in this context, download and delete are two distinct operations, but I have seen download used with the delete afterwards only implied or assumed. Never hurts to clarify, since many of us use terminology rather loosely. Since I’m dealing with emails here, I appreciate your input.
In my experience “moving (vice copying)” would mean “moving (‘as a substitute for’ or ’ in the place of’ or ‘instead of’ copying)”. I certainly did not intend to have the choice of words interfere with stating my question.
Thanks for your feedback.
If I may insert another question in this thread (if I should create a separate question - tell me);
I have in the past copied the sent folder from my emClient to a local folder. If I repeat that operation, will the contents of the emCLient folder being copied - will the contents be appended to or replace the contents of the local folder? Should I instead export from the emClient sent folder to the local folder or export to another location and then attempt to merge with the local folder. It seems like if the result of exporting is a collection of .eml files, then that may be incompatible with the previous local folder. Am I correct?
If you re-copy an email from an acct sent folder to the local sent folder (at the bottom left) it will just “add another copy” of that same sent email to the local sent folder. It doesn’t overright the prev email.
Great. I hadn’t heard the term vice copy before, so I learned something new.
Vice copy is not the term; vice used as a preposition, as in
- the staff is made up of volunteers vice paid employees.
Thanks Roger. I’d didn’t know the word could be used as a preposition and had an entirely different meaning when used that way. Either I’ve never heard it or just didn’t notice somehow.
It can be checked in Account. If you are using IMAP your item regarding that will be synchronized.