More intelligent spam blocking?

[NJRonbo]

Hi Lancelot!

Apple is still allowing SpamSieve as a plug-in. I am currently using it and I just went over to Spamsieve’s website and they do indicate that their plug-in is compatible with Sonoma.

I do know a few years back, Apple changed the way they installed plug-ins, making the process a little more cumbersome, probably due to security concerns. However, there is still support.

The problem for the average consumer is that unless they want to shell out a monthly subscription, they are stuck with free hosting services like Apple, Google, Outlook for their email. So, that’s why it’s difficult to move to a host that does a better job of handling spam.

I think GMAIL does an excellent job handling spam. Apple seems to filter out most of the spam, but when I turn SpamSieve off, I get a few spam messages over a few days.

Perhaps it’s unfair, as you said, to be pushing eM Client to handle mail hosting inadequacies. However, the question I pose is whether it’s a security concern or just a personal “belief” over allowing plug-ins. If it’s the latter, I just look at it as another compelling feature that eM Client can offer its users in the same way PostBox, Apple and Outlook do.

As far as a store process, that’s handled on the SpamSieve website. Vetting process? SpamSieve already has an established reputation.

There are two points of view on this subject and certainly I respect and understand your viewpoint. Whatever eM Client decides is fine. They have already added a ton of new features that I have been asking for and am thrilled to be using. There’s already a request thread in place where users can vote on this issue and be taken under consideration.

[Psiax]

Using a browser as an email interface does not work well…that’s why we use a client like EMClient in the first place!

And flagging/deleting spam messages is time-consuming and oftentimes domains are not re-used so filters, blacklists, etc. are not the (entire) solution. Computers should work for me, not the other way around.

@slb739

The party line of “spam filtering should be on the server” doesn’t work when your email provider stinks and you can’t change email providers (at least in the near term).

I agree with @ slb739 on this point; having a client, plug-in, or something to help with spam is ideal.

Interestingly, I use Mailwasher Pro and it had been very effective, until recently. So I started searching for an alternative and ironically found a review on Windows Report that EMClient has excellent spam filtering capabilities!

[JBauern57]

I was curious about POSTBOX, so I went to their website, and it seems eMClient has purchased POSTBOX.
POSTBOX

[slb739]

@eobet

@Gary

A desktop app just can’t compete with that.

Some of us pay for that desktop app because we don’t want any part of the techbro monopoly…

There are PLENTY of email clients that handle spam email better than emClient. Some even charge a lot less for a license.

[slb739]

@lancealot

spam filtering should be server side

We have no control over the server side.

@lancealot

where if you have multiple devices, the filtering only happens if you have the client running with the spam filtering enabled

I only have emClient on one device. So can I have spam filtering please?

@lancealot

If it is not running then spam filtering will not take place on the other devices.

Sure it will! Turn spam filtering on all devices. Problem solved.

@lancealot

Additionally, server side filtering has the ability to be trained more efficiently due to being able to have many users (some within the same domain) doing the training.

My server sucks at training and it’s got millions of users. Yeah you’ll probably tell me I should find a better server. I don’t disagree but that’s a difficult proposition.

@lancealot

If your email provider does not have spam filtering at the server side, then I suggest looking into using another email provider that does.

Finding another email client that does effective spam filtering is another option.

@lancealot

if enough users feel otherwise it can be voted on at SeekPlan

If this is emClient’s polling site why doesn’t it have single sign on? Yet another account to create.