I have had it! scrollbars in the app

This is misunderstanding. What you see on the last screenshot, these ARE wide scrollbars. It is about their overall size, where you can use the mouse, not about the graphics of the scrollbar thumb. This is a standard look for Win11 scrollbars all across the operating system (including File explorer etc). The reason why you see an “old school” toolbar on the right is that that scrollbar is not a standard (wide) scrollbar, but it is a custom CSS scrollbar.
The main 2 idea behind the option “Wide scrollbars” were:

  1. the scrollbar is always visible with that option
  2. the scrollball is overall wider, even though the thumb might be rendered narrow, but this is an OS defined scrollbar look.